Octave Reviews

3.7

60% would recommend to a friend

(80 total reviews)
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Sandeep Acharya

72% approve of CEO

68% positive business outlook

Octave has an employee rating of 3.7 out of 5 stars, based on 80 company reviews on Glassdoor which indicates that most employees have a good working experience there. The Octave employee rating is in line with the average (within 1 standard deviation) for employers within the Healthcare industry (3.4 stars).

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1.0
31 May 2021

A demoralizing experience

Recommend
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Pros

A real strength of Octave is that they’ve hired some amazing people. It was the meaningful clinical work and the amazing colleagues that kept me there for as long as I stayed.

Cons

I left Octave because I felt I could no longer in good conscience work for this company. My experience there, especially with the leadership team, wore me down in ways I’m still processing.
 Attrition Sadly, many of my colleagues decided to leave too. The team of clinicians I joined was originally 13. In less than a year, at least eleven of resigned. Many valuable people outside our team left too. In December, the Chief Clinical Officer and the two California Clinic Directors resigned in unison. From there on out, things only got worse. Misguided Leadership From my perspective, a major part of the problem with this company is that the people at the top 1) lack a background in clinical psychology, and 2) seem unwilling and/or unable to genuinely listen and learn from providers who raise concerns. While I was initially excited and encouraged to hear the CEO talk about his vision and values, I felt repeatedly disappointed and deceived. In practice it felt like CEO promoted a toxic culture of paternalism, where power and decision making flowed from the top, even when that wasn’t for the good of the clients, the employees, or the company as a whole. Values Conflict It felt implicitly acceptable to “move fast and break things” even if those “things” were the clients we served. Clients (“customers”) and providers (“the product”) seemed to be regarded as replaceable and expendable. When clinicians, including myself, repeatedly brought up concerns about standards of care or legal and ethical compliance, I felt like we were ignored and stonewalled. Coping Shortly after starting, I drafted some “non-negotiables” — conditions of ongoing employment — as a way to check in with myself about whether it made sense to stay. Here’s what I came up with: There needs to be follow through on pay and basic employee benefits (e.g. insurance, PTO) as agreed upon during hiring or at other points over the course of employment. The company needs to show a commitment to written and verbal agreements, it should not engage in bait-and-switch practices (intentional or otherwise), and it should hold itself accountable when it makes mistakes.  If my personal safety, my license and/or my professional reputation are compromised or placed in serious jeopardy, or if other therapists raise these concerns, then those concerns need to be addressed in a timely manner. If clients’ safety, privacy, or general wellbeing become compromised, then these concerns need to be addressed in a timely manner. Leadership and workplace culture need to promote and maintain a basic level of equity, inclusion, and respect for others, both internal and external to the organization (e.g. the company needs to promptly and effectively address complaints of harassment or discrimination).  Apart from about a six month period prior to the resignation of the Chief Clinical Officer, these were regularly unmet in a myriad of ways. 
 Advice If you’re thinking of working for this company, or you’re there now, it may be helpful to clarify your own non-negotiables. If you feel like your concerns are being compromised, check in with your colleagues — so you don’t get siloed.

1.0
20 Jan 2021
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

Very talented people have been hired as clinicians due to the bait-and-switch, but the majority have left within a year.

Cons

Not HIPAA compliant. Clinical teams have raised these concerns again and again, but Octave (whose leadership is not clinicians) does not take these concerns seriously enough. Many of us have been very concerned about harming clients. CEO makes very impulsive decisions. He is a great salesperson (thus the bait-and-switch) but once people are hired he does not treat anyone well. He does not come from a mental health background so often makes very poor decisions with regards to operations and client care. There have been multiple complaints about racism (anti-Blackness) and homophobia for months. The organization will say they have addressed the issues but they have continued. All of West coast leadership left at the same time (December 2020) and many clinicians did as well. This organization is a sinking ship. I would consider it a hostile work environment, especially toward marginalized groups. Very disorganized and chaotic to the point of grave irresponsibility (e.g. accidental charges of over $20K to clients, resulting in clients leaving).

2.0
28 Jul 2021
Recommend
CEO approval
Business outlook

Pros

The clients are motivated and diverse. Therapist colleagues so far have been knowledgable, skilled, and a pleasure to work with.

Cons

Cons for clients: * Octave only accepts 2 insurances: Anthem and MHN, but the clients aren't necessarily aware of this. They are not good about following up about whether insurance coverage has changed, and clients can end up responsible for months of out-of-pocket service fees without realizing they were not covered. * Waitlist is long * Therapist retention is poor, so fair amount of turnover gets in the way of continuity of care * From a tech company approach of doing things their own way, the business side is not aware of ethical or clinical concerns and often reinvent the wheel in ways that are not helpful to clients or clinicians. Therapist side - Poor Retention: * I have worked here for a year, and in that time have seen more than half my colleagues resign, including a mass resignation before a major management policy change that included 5 out of 7 clinical directors * Salary is confusing and unmotivating. In April the company switched from a regular salary, giving therapists only 2-3 weeks to decide whether to stay on, and without issuing new contracts. Base pay was cut by about 17%, with "incentivizing" bonus possible based on number of clients seen per week. However, PTO is not counted towards hours, so if you take vacation it makes it hard to get the "bonus" to earn back what you would have been making otherwise. Sick time taken counts for .45 to the hour of time taken towards reduction in expected client hours. Sound confusing and upsetting? It is. * Systemic racism and discrimination at play. Multiple BIPOC colleagues left due to experiences of racism. A transgender colleague was dead named multiple times without correction or apology. To address this? DEI training for the clinicians, who are not the ones in power or the ones who have been problematic. The business side will begin their own DEI training a year after the most egregious incidents. * An overall attitude of not valuing therapists, pumping us for hours, disregarding feedback on management, clinical, and ethical issues. * Gaslighting and toxic positivity * High turnover of clinic directors / vacancies for clinic directors - lack of advocacy or representation for clinicians * High turnover of staff, upsetting for clinicians who continue to work here and see valued colleagues leave due to bad experience working at Octave * Trying to walk a balance of explaining to clients their options when clinician is leaving Octave, knowing they will likely face high turnover with new therapists

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